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is the point? to make people feel good about whacking somebody else. >> so what is your answer to what mitch mcconnel said? go after rich people. why do it at all? >> it is good to be with you. i think that the minority leader seems to have a math problem. ending the tax cuts for the rich is worth $1 trillion. i think our government spends a little less than $1 trillion. most people think it is $800 billion. this is a ten-year number. you are $80 billion a year. and this is a outside reach. a lot of guys like myself think you are not going to get it. let me ask you this, david, we have a weak economy, i know jobs are growing but they are growing weekly. what sense does it make to raise taxes on anybody when you have such a weak economy. from a economic, not ideal logical stand n point, what sense does it make? >> well, you know larlarry, the labor movement thinks that jobs are the number one agenda here, as you well know, we have had this conversation about your need to do something to get our finances in better shape, the way to do that with the least amount of damage to our economy, is to end the b
? barack obama is not interested in compromise. keith, you just contradicted yourselves. >> mitch mcconnell has been the guy out there saying it, and all republicans are not willing to have any new tax increases. >> that's not true. there's a difference between raising revenues and raising taxes. >> no, i said tax increases, though. tell me, am i wrong about that, steve? >> no, you are wrong. >> when did he say differently? >> look, i interviewed him this week. he said it many times. he said it on the senate floor. we're willing to compromise on raising taxes. that's something that a lot of republicans aren't real happy with, but he said look, i'm willing to put revenues on the table. but what he's saying, keith, let's be very clear. >> you're saying revenue. i'm saying tax increases. >> right. >> the bush tax rates -- no, i'm talking about bush tax rates. they expire on december 31st contin. >> that's what republicans won't agree to. the answer is no, we're not going to let those rates go up because it's going to do significant damage to the economy. >> like it did during the clinton admin
out an olive branch. i don't think mitch mcconnell's was. >> neither was harry reid for that matter. >> that's fair. >> this agreement, becky, is going to be between the speaker and the president. be honest if you want to do this agreement the speaker and the president should sit down without any staff in the room and reach the parameters of it. >> can they do that before boehner goes with his party for just to make sure he's still the leader? i've heard you have to wait until the end of -- >> becky, i totally disagree with that. >> okay. >> the speaker of the house has control over his caucus, not control but he has the confidence of his caucus and i think it's sort of a "new york times" spin event that the speaker doesn't have that. the simple fact is that the speaker does have that. ing to be a comprehensive it's agreement where the entitlement savings will be justified, will be significant enough so that you can justify tax reform that can be sold to the membership of the house. >> ed, you need to respond to that? >> no, i actually agree with that, nancy pelosi did it for healt
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